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Marko
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Italy
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 :  22:19:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As you know, Lene wrote 2 lyrics -"Should It Matter" and "We Both Know"- for Sissel's album "All Good Things", which was published in Norway in November, 2000.
Now, it's not sure if Lene wrote those lyrics after her withdrawal from the spotlight in February of the same year. But supposing it, as since last August we know some true reasons of her absence, the lyrics (especially of WBK) contain surprising meanings to which I obviously didn’t give much importance in the past.
Only now that I’ve finally bought Sissel’s cd through Ebay and that I’ve listened to that songs and read again the lyrics after many time (before I had the tracks only on my PC, almost forgotten) I thought to open a topic, as I did in the Italian forum. To share some considerations with you and to open a discussion about those wonderful lyrics, in particular WBK, which have always been disregarded by the fans, unjustifiably (even if comprehensibly) if those really are the only things we have of Lene in her 3 years of total absence… but what things, her innest feelings!

So, read the text one time again and tell me if this isn’t a sort of autobiographical antecedent of “Disguise” and even prophetical lyrics (think of the obsessive journalists, of her paranoia, of her being always at home, of her sense of guilt and of her longing to come back):

The outside unknown feels so cold
All you can think of is closing your eyes
Hoping it's gone when they open
But the feeling is still there


Your dreams can not change today
Everything's familiar
Everything's the same
And you are sorry

We both know
I will hear your laughter again
I know how it feels
When the shadows lie upon you

You wonder about life how it goes
You've lost your directions long time ago
Want to start it all over again

Losing your patience, want to know when

Time finds you worthy one second chance
Then you'll be ready - won't let it slip away



Pellissier, an Italian fan who analysed better the two lyrics, will open still more your eyes.
We are the first ones who don’t love to do such operations on Lene’s lyrics, but you understand this is a justified exception, and if you agree with us, I will go even a bit further next time.

Even if the lyrics of WBK wouldn’t handle of this (there’s also a reference to someone loved and the title refers to 2 people), to me it’s a confirmation of Lene’s way of thinking and feeling, they show a sure faith in life which always offers a second chance, and show a strong self-knowledge. Transposed in what happened to her, that means she always knew one day she would have come back, that the right moment for the good and patient ones (she… and I think also we) would have come some day or other.




Cannot control this... this thing called Lene

Edited by - Marko on 19 Apr 2004 22:37:39

Tef Johs
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Norway
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 :  22:42:35  Show Profile  Visit Tef Johs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I could very well agree on that she is singing about herself. At least they're about someone way into a period of uncomfort. Depression, perhaps, if we're to use that word. In November 2000, Lene still had a long way to go before "time found her worthy one second chance", as she writes.

I wanted to give this link to a partial live version of "We Both Know", sung by Sissel. You may listen to it using Realplayer by clicking on this link:

http://www.universalstudios.com/cgi-bin/g2script.cgi?classics/440064/4400644122-001-06.rm


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Marko
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Italy
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 :  21:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah... I don't have Realplayer any more, now I use Windows Media Player. What can I do?



Cannot control this... this thing called Lene

Edited by - Marko on 21 Apr 2004 21:20:29
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Pellissier
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Italy
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 :  22:05:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Marko
Pellissier, an Italian fan who analysed better the two lyrics, will open still more your eyes.

Here I am, sorry for the delay.

Basically I have seen lot of similarities among the two songs, so i decided to analyze them in a deeper way.
I have found a path in common with the two songs, that path is past-present-future. Each element can be found in both songs, but we can see a clear difference of point of views, which made me thinks this: We Both Know could definitely be meant as an autobiographical antecedent of Disguise

We Both Know
It's sad, describes a past plenty of sufference. But shows the hope. Hope for a new chance for the destiny to give, and for her to take.
Let's see the path:

Past:

You've lost your directions long time ago

Present:

The outside unknown feels so cold
All you can think of is closing your eyes


Future:

Time finds you worthy one second chance
Then you'll be ready - won't let it slip away


Three elements, with this reading key:
The past suddenly became black, the present is still black, the future , taking the chance that destiny will provide, will maybe be better.

In Disguise we have a sort of "autobiographical update" of Lene's situation, made years after and in a different state of mind.
Now things are going better, the "chance from the destiny" has been taken. But the past is still remembered, with fear; there's the hope that such moments won't come back.
No need to analyze the lyrics better here.
The whole Disguise's lyrics talk about the dark past, the present is a sort of hymn to serenity and the future is seen with hope.

Past:

Have you ever felt some kind of emptiness inside...
(and following lines)


Present:

I'm okay I really am now
Just needed some time to figure things out


Future:

Not telling lies I'll be honest with you
Still we don't know what's yet to come


Three elements here too, with the following Reading key:
The past was black, present is fine, future.. be careful about it 'cause it hurted and could do it again....

That's just my opinion, anyway i see it all as autobiographical... then... who knows...





If you should ask then maybe they'd tell you what I would say
True colours fly in blue and black
Bruised silken sky and burning flag
Colours crash, collide in blood shoot eyes..

If I could you know I would...
If I could I would let it go....


[U2, Bad]

A Northern Star's Enlightening Our Ways

Edited by - Pellissier on 22 Apr 2004 09:15:55
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adamqaisar
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  00:14:45  Show Profile  Visit adamqaisar's Homepage  Click to see adamqaisar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think it appears on the surface to be about a lost love. To me it just has that feel to it reding the lyrics.

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