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Tef Johs
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Norway
496 Posts

Posted - 31 May 2004 :  22:47:56  Show Profile  Visit Tef Johs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geno

Even if you (and all of us) dont like it, you have to accept that AD has been a commercial failure. PMG sold 300 000 in France, AD has sold... 3000?


If you read this article:

http://www.lene-marlin.no/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1085474114&archive=&start_from=&ucat=9&

You'll see that Another Day was lying 10 weeks in France's Top 200 sales chart. Even if the positions were 38 and below, as you can see from the graphic, I would guess the sales figure are much higher than "3000", seeing France is a country with about 60 million inhabitants. I would estimate at least 25 - 30.000 copies.

A commercial failure, you claim? That is a questionable statement. You and others here should remember some facts from Lene's history. Just a couple of weeks before PMG was to be released in 1999, EMI thought 15.000 copies should do the trick. Yes, that's *fifteen thousand* copies. It went on to sell 150.000 copies in Norway alone, sure, but this tells you what EMI actually expected in the commercial sense.

Also, for Another Day, the expectations have been low, sales figure like PMG have never been in the minds of those leading EMI Norway (at least). In this regard, I'd say that 400.000 copies, if accurate, is a pretty solid sales figure for AD. It's of course lower than PMG, unquestionable, but it's not an unconditional "commercial failure", as many here would seem to think. This sales figure means millions of NKR in gross income, as we already have estimated.

I also note that if taking the absolute most negative and pessimistic view possible for an artist's career ("getting fired by the record company") is the way you people choose to "support" your favourite artist, then I'd have to question the value of this support. I'd think Lene has many people around her giving her the realistic viewpoints on her career. From us, however, she needs something else, and that is positivism and genuine support.

Needless to say, I stand by my view on this matter.


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norskelgen
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France
130 Posts

Posted - 31 May 2004 :  23:32:37  Show Profile  Click to see norskelgen's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ohhh!!well,takk skal du ha tef !!!
that's the way to talk,like this with exemples and rates!!that's nice!!!!that's your way to be up north!!!we in france,we are more in a mess!!!!lol
still in france,i know nobody(out of this site) who listened to AD!!!that's a pity!!!!

and Lene won't be fired!!! that's sure!!! i know so much bad bands that still have a contract!!!! don't worry you all!!!!

Norskelgen !!!

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But they're not for you
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Helios Rietberg
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Malaysia
710 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  10:55:15  Show Profile  Visit Helios Rietberg's Homepage  Click to see Helios Rietberg's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
True, i am yelling for the right to express my opinion. I'm not trying to make you change yours, but just to let you realise how hurting you're being. Sure, i'm not licensed to tell you what to do, but you needn't be so extremely sarcastic... yeah, you don't agree that you're sarcastic. Please, look in the mirror. It's not nice to have other people to tell you to stop something, but in return, think of how you're treating them. You're spitting saliva in many people's faces.

Sure, so you say it quite ridiculous that she'll be fired. Well, have you ever thought about the other possibility? And you say we're being negative and pessimistic. Well you've got to know that this world isn't so positive. Well, in my opinion, it's better to be negative than positive, then if the negative side does surface, your fall won't be so hard. It's just a way of preparing for a rainy day.

If i'm being sarcastic or spitting at you, just note that i'm just following your example.

Reality is an illusion that occurs due to the lack of alcohol.

Comme le monde est grand.
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norskelgen
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France
130 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  13:23:31  Show Profile  Click to see norskelgen's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah,totally agree with you helios !!!!(but sorry,i take life positivly!!!maybe a rainy day will come,but maybe this day could be the one of my death!!!)

well,what i feel like ridiculious in this topic,its that it's starting with a simple question of georgette(nice french name!!! ;-) ),and then it's becoming a sort of fight of people wanting to have the last word of ever!!! he fight it's like " yeah,i quote,and then i show you that you are f**king wrong!!!).Isn't it? thta's a pity to feed this topic with ego's needs you have,to show to people how much you know about it!!! but,i pardon you all,coz that's human to do it(unfortunately...)

ok,that was my little speech,i'm incrimining nobody especially,just the ones who used this base "quote,f**k,quote,f**k,so you're wrong!!!"

salutations ...

Norskelgen!!!

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Tef Johs
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Norway
496 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  16:34:54  Show Profile  Visit Tef Johs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Above, I gave both references and clear reasons for my view. If you can't accept it, then it's really not my problem.


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Helios Rietberg
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Malaysia
710 Posts

Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  17:33:29  Show Profile  Visit Helios Rietberg's Homepage  Click to see Helios Rietberg's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Good, for all of us. Then we can end this discussion once and for all.

Reality is an illusion that occurs due to the lack of alcohol.

Comme le monde est grand.
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georgette
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  01:06:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
look, i am the one that started the topic and i really didnt want it to turn into this big feud between the members.i'm really sorry if i provoked(is that how you spell it??) hard feelings, but i just wanted to see if anyone in here had some information about lene...so once and for all, i really hope you guys can make peace.
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Tef Johs
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Norway
496 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  12:59:03  Show Profile  Visit Tef Johs's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Don't worry about it...it's all Lene's fault!

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norskelgen
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France
130 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  14:06:55  Show Profile  Click to see norskelgen's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hehehe !!!

Norskelgen

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Dazzy
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United Kingdom
148 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  19:48:51  Show Profile  Click to see Dazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It wasn't your fault georgette. You asked a simple question and I replied with a "ridiculous" comment!

But hey - I don't care. I'm a crazy rediculous kinda guy!




My loss, here we go again...
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Tef Johs
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Norway
496 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  20:23:56  Show Profile  Visit Tef Johs's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dazzy

But hey - I don't care. I'm a crazy rediculous kinda guy!


Hey, it's not "rediculous", it's "ridiculous"!

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Meriadoc
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Belgium
489 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  21:03:02  Show Profile  Visit Meriadoc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by georgette

look, i am the one that started the topic and i really didnt want it to turn into this big feud between the members.i'm really sorry if i provoked(is that how you spell it??) hard feelings, but i just wanted to see if anyone in here had some information about lene...so once and for all, i really hope you guys can make peace.


We didn't really got into a fight. I've been in worse discution with a lot less polite people on other forums and newsgroups. This is a polite forum with civiliced people who occasionaly disagree.
And for news about Lene: if you know a little Italian, try the italian forum. Much more comments and news.
BTW, nobody blaims you for starting a topic. We blaim people who never have started one

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georgette
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 02 Jun 2004 :  22:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanx a lot guys, it makes me feel better that you are not at each other's throats anymore! i hope everything goes back to normal and that we can go back talking about interesting stuff (about lene ofcourse!!!!).
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Dazzy
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United Kingdom
148 Posts

Posted - 03 Jun 2004 :  20:23:44  Show Profile  Click to see Dazzy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
By Tef

Hey, it's not "rediculous", it's "ridiculous"!


Now you're just being picky! Don't ever speak to me ever again!!!!









My loss, here we go again...
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TRUNKS
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5 Posts

Posted - 25 Jun 2004 :  08:46:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of american don't know/recognize europan artists and vice versa. Ask americans,"Do you know Lene Marlin, Gareth Gates, Westlife, Neri Per Caso?" They would answer,"No, We don't know." and then ask europans, "Do you know Michelle Branch, Stacie Orrico, or Hillary Duff?" They would answer, "No, Who are they?"

Fair enough?






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